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Michelle
06-08-2009, 12:34 PM
I have just written the following about the rice milk scare for Foods Matter magazine and felt that concerned forum visitors might also be glad to know a bit more about it.

'The Foods Standard’s Agency’s recent advice not to give rice based drinks to children under five has caused panic amongst parents of dairy and/or soya allergic children who often give rice drinks to their children.
The FSA’s report says that not enough is known about the toxicity of inorganic arsenic (the type found in the rice drinks and the type thought to cause cancer) to be able to set specific ‘thresholds of exposure’ although the amount found in the drinks (12 μg/kg of drink) is below the legal limits. Their advice not to substitute infant formula, cow’s milk or soya drinks with rice drinks is therefore purely precautionary.
It is to be hoped that no one would be using rice drink as a formula substitute (it is totally nutrtionally inadequate) but many parents do use it as a drink. However, Rice Dream, by far the most common rice drink sold in the UK, have issued a statement to the effect that the inorganic arsenic in their products (20–30 parts per billion) is three times lower than the legal limit in the UK and therefore poses no risk.

Nutritionist Micki Rose comments:
We must remember that arsenic occurs as a natural part of our environment and is in many natural foods but obviously you don’t want to give loads of extra.
If a child is dependent on rice milk as they are allergic to soya and dairy milks and other grain milks such as oat, then you can do a hair test to check levels of arsenic in the body every six months to reassure yourself.
Personally, I think it is always a question of rotating foods as much as you can as they all have different good and bad nutritional profiles. Also, always buy organic so that the levels of what I perceive as even more harmful agro-chemicals are limited.

Joanne
08-21-2009, 11:13 AM
i have been using rice dream milk for my daughter for the last couple of years she is dairy and soya intolerable. Last June 08 my daughter who is 8 developed a rash all over her body and face, I took her to see doctors, paediatricians and dermatologists to see if we could get to see what was causing this rash. She also started losing weight, having nights sweats, seemed to be having joint problems. She was hospitalised 3 times with vomitting and each time they could not come up with a cause for this. My daughter has cerebal palsy and cannot walk or talk, we have been through a lot with her through the years but whatever was happening to her with this rash was just terrible. The first dermatologist i went to see told me to give her and anti histamine and that she would be ok, but after several visits to her and no difference i went to see another dermatologist who was very sympathetic and did numerous test and biopsies, everything came back normal. My daughter was getting sicker all the time. I read in one of the national newspapers about the arsenic in the rice milk and stopped giving the milk to my daughter. The rash disappered she started to get better and is now slowly putting weight back on ( she was 20kg and went down to 16kg) and she is really in the best of form. I am convinced all this was caused by the rice milk and the arsenic in it.

John
08-27-2009, 11:55 PM
Any discussion about what level of arsenic might be safe needs to take into consideration the fact that people vary extremely widely in their ability to eliminate arsenic from their body.

Recent research (http://www.sciencedaily.com /releases/2009/08/090826110159.htm) which monitored the arsenic excretion of human volunteers, found that, while some participants excreted up to 95 percent of the arsenic they ingested, others eliminated as little as four percent.

This makes a nonsense of any statement by a manufacturer that their product contains a 'safe level' of arsenic, or one which 'poses no risk', because what may be safe for someone who excretes almost all of the arsenic they ingest may be far from safe for someone who only excretes 4 per cent.

Micki
09-11-2009, 03:05 PM
That's interesting, John. My immediate thought would be why such a variance? Selenium is antagonistic to arsenic so I wonder if people are deficient in that mineral (likely as soil levels are getting lower apparently). This crops up quite a bit on hair tests when aresenic is present at too high a level.

Also, I wonder if they have a detox pathway problem in the liver. I find this a lot and different pathways are responsible for breaking down different substances. Could it be because the pathway for the elimination or breakdown of arsenic is not very efficient?

Oh no, I've set myself off on another quest....!